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  • single_yrmr

    Right — have been messing about with this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d write something up since a mate asked me a few days back. I’m based in the UK, generally do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    The reason I started using it was honestly a bit daft — I could never figure out what an ew payout would be when the place terms changed. I used to just guess and get a shock. Now I stick my stake in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in your stake, the odds and you get the return instantly, either odds format. There’s also the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, and that’s where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it’s over at lucky 63 bet calculator — free, no signup.

    One thing that genuinely made a difference is the nerdier bits. The odds-to-probability calculator and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is decent for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its interface is very functional, let’s say — zero flash, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s usable though the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. There’s nothing on the app store, just the site — slight shame but you asked.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. If anyone even now adds it up in their head, give it a go — saves me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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  • single_wmmr

    OK — have been messing about with this thing for maybe six months now and I keep coming back, so figured I’d write something up since a mate asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, mostly bet football and racing, small stakes, for context.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I couldn’t ever work out what an ew payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just eyeball it and get a shock. Now punch the numbers in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and it spits out profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — trebles returns, a lucky 15, yankees, which is where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at single calc — free, no signup.

    One thing that genuinely changed how I bet is the geekier bits. They’ve got an implied probability calculator which shows you the overround, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one gets used a fair bit when I’m splitting a race.

    It’s not perfect mind. The interface is very functional, let’s say — no frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it’s usable although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.

    So yeah. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, does the job. If you still does the maths on paper, have a look — it’s saved me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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  • single_dvmr

    So — been on this thing for maybe six months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m in the UK, generally do football and horses, nothing mad, for context.

    How I found it was actually embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew payout would be when the place terms changed. I used to just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I type the odds in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I open most — type in stake and odds and you get the return straight away, either odds format. It also handles the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15s, yankees, and that’s where most people I know mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here lucky 15 calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    What really changed how I bet were the more serious bits. There’s an odds-to-probability calculator and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too for when I’m splitting a race.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its design feels very functional, let’s say — no polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it’s usable although the lucky 63 breakdown are a squeeze. There’s nothing on the app store, just the site — slight shame but worth saying.

    Right, that’s me. Free, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. Anyone who still does the maths on paper, give it a go — saved me a load of «wait, that’s it?» moments.

  • single_abmr

    So — been using this thing for about six months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m UK based, generally bet football and racing, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    The reason I started using it was honestly embarrassing — I never could work out what an each way return actually came to when the place terms changed. I’d just guess and get a shock. Now punch the numbers in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator is the part I use most — type in stake and odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, and that’s where I’d always lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at bookmaker margin calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    What genuinely shifted things for me were the nerdier bits. They’ve got an probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly staking tool — I use half kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. The interface feels a bit basic — no flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s usable but the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. And no app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, does what it says. If you still does the maths on paper, give it a go — saves me a load of arguments with the bookie.

  • single_bamr

    So — been on this thing for about six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, mainly do football and horses, nothing mad, for context.

    What got me on it was actually a bit daft — I never could get my head round what an e/w payout would be once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d eyeball it and then be surprised. These days I stick my stake in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the part I’m on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and it spits out the return straight away, fractions or decimals. There’s also the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15s, a yankee, which is where I’d always got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at lucky 63 betmentor calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    What really made a difference is the more serious bits. There’s an probability thing and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly criterion tool — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The layout looks a bit basic — not much flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it works but the bigger tables are a squeeze. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but you asked.

    So yeah. Free, barely any ads, works. Anyone who honestly adds it up in their head, try it — it’s saved me plenty of «wait, that’s it?» moments.

  • single_sgmr

    OK — have been messing about with this thing for maybe a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since a mate asked me the other day. I’m UK based, mostly bet football and racing, small stakes, for context.

    How I found it was actually embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew payout actually came to once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d guess and then be surprised. These days I stick my stake in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — type in the price and your stake and you get returns instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at irish lotto bet calculator — free, no signup.

    One thing that actually made a difference was the geekier tools. There’s an odds-to-probability thing that shows what margin’s baked in, and a kelly tool — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The layout looks pretty plain — zero flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it works although the acca grid are a squeeze. And nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    So yeah. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, works. If you still does the maths on paper, have a look — saves me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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  • single_ngmr

    OK — been on this thing for something like six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since a mate asked me last week. I’m UK based, generally stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I never could figure out what an ew return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I’d just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now type the odds in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the part I’m on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the fiddly ones — trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, which is where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it’s here bookmaker margin calculator — free, no signup.

    The thing that genuinely shifted things for me is the nerdier bits. There’s an odds-to-probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, and a kelly tool — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutch tool is decent when I’m spreading across selections.

    It’s not perfect mind. The interface is pretty plain — zero polish, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s usable although the acca grid are a squeeze. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me just flagging it.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. If you still adds it up in their head, have a look — saved me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  • single_zomr

    OK — been using this thing for maybe four months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d say something since a mate asked me the other day. Am in the UK, mostly do football and horses, small stakes, for context.

    The reason I started using it was honestly embarrassing — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an each way return actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now punch the numbers in before I place anything, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator is the one I use most — you drop in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — acca and treble maths, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, which is where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it’s here lucky 63 bet365 and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that actually shifted things for me was the more serious bits. The probability thing and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, and a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m spreading across selections.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its interface looks pretty plain — not much frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it’s fine although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame just flagging it.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, works. If you even now adds it up in their head, try it — saved me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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